Learn how to have more focus and direction towards what really matters to you. We talk about why defining your purpose serves you and how to define your purpose in business and personal life while enabling you to contribute to the greater good.
- Brene Brown’s Book: Dare to Lead on Amazon
- Brene Brown’s List of Values for finding your purpose
- Brene Brown’s Dare to Lead Workbook
J: Welcome to the Among Lionhearts podcast. I’m Julia and this is…
J: And we are your new loudmouth, change-making, do-gooder best friends here to embolden you to take more action, risk, and heart towards creating a more just, equitable, and brave world. If you’re wanting to have more focus and direction towards what really matters to you then today’s episode is for you. We are going to be talking about why defining your purpose serves you and how to actually define your purpose in business, personal life, and help you contribute to the greater good. So thank you for joining us today we are very excited to have you this is our first ever podcast!
M: This is history.
J: Yes! We’re so excited so many things have gone into making this happen. It’s been a long journey and I don’t know this is really special and we really appreciate everyone who is turning tuning in today. It’s not going to be perfect right but we’re gonna we’re doing it anyway. Michelle like so I’m just gonna jump into it, so to kind of get started off like trying to get into this mindset dive a little bit deeper into finding our purpose and why it serves us. I wanted to ask Michelle a question to get this started. So Michelle how long have we been friends?
J: I’m trying to start with an easy one.
M: It is an easy one but it does date us. We’ve been friends since we were eight years old which is about 30 years and uh we grew up across the street from each other in a tiny little town in the middle of nowhere, Utah, and yeah we’ve been friends ever since. We’ve been through thick and thin and we’ve talked multiple times about doing a business together and for some reason, the stars aligned this time and we were able to launch Among Lionhearts. So we’re excited to share that with everyone.
J: Yes we are very excited and I couldn’t ask for a better business partner. So Michelle how would you describe you and I as kids or teenagers any of our adolescents as popular?
M: No I would not use popular to describe us. There are many many good adjectives but popular is not one of them.
J: How would you describe us?
M: Quirky comes to mind.
J: That’s very very fair. Yeah what else you got?
M: Full of joy, unstoppable. We were a force of nature and we were very… animated.
J: Animated that’s good, that’s a really good one.
J: So I agree with all of those things. I think mostly Michelle and I just like, we were just really grateful to spend any time together. Honestly, and it didn’t matter what was happening in our life. We just tried to make the most of what was happening at the time. Just being together and letting some of our troubles kind of… not be present, and that was really really nice. So since we’re talking about purpose today on our very first podcast I was looking back at us as young girls and stuff and I think about those two girls and I imagine them and I wonder what they thought their purpose was going to be and what we valued as little girls and has that changed much? What do you think, if you had to describe like maybe what your values were back then as a kid what would you say like those main ones were?
M: Well, conquering the world certainly comes to mind.
M: We were always… we were… I don’t know.
J: I know we like to go deep fast.
M: I know. Aren’t we supposed to talk about the values that we dug into and discovered or because I mean those have always been there.
J: Yeah it’s like those values change and stuff and I wanted to hear… I know that we grew up in hard, hard situations and stuff and I know that as we’re older our circumstances have changed and stuff but I think if I had to say like what my value when I was younger… It was to find a safe place. I think a lot of things that I did were just trying to carve out safe places for myself.
J: Safe places where I could feel calm. Those came in different forms but if I had to say like… That was my main thing I was just seeking. Everything felt so really out of control and some of those calm places came in the form of me running off back behind my house there’s big trees clear across the field.
J: We buried a time capsule out there once. I don’t know if you remember that but there’s a time capsule out there. One day we’ll have to dig it up.
M: I do remember doing that but yeah I have no idea where it is. I think I’m terrified to find out what we put in it.
J: I think it’s not gonna be as impressive as we like to think it is.
M: I’m sure we were like this is going to be so awesome when we dig it back up. You’re just so aware of what you’re going to think is awesome as a 40-year-old when you’re 12.
J: No right? So definitely for me it was finding calm and finding little places where I could get that and sometimes that was like running out there, sometimes it was, you know, focusing on a project, a craft project, or a painting thing. Honestly, I think that’s why I was so drawn to you at such a young age and stuff because we were weird, we were doing weird things, and we were living through a lot of traumatic stuff. I always felt like there was a calm that came to being weird with someone else that was weird. You know?
M: Acceptance was the word that kept coming to mind. You know?
J: Yeah, but for me, that was a sense of calm. There was always like… I remember my youth and it feels like a pit in my stomach. You know? That was never going away. Like I was never good enough, I was never going to amount too much and there was just so much I had to overcome. I could feel it at a very young age. It was nice to just be weird with someone and it was nice just to like… it was funny because we were going through so much but we never really talked about it till we were older. Like much much older. But we were in the thick of it both having so much trauma and experiencing that side by side. When we were together we tried to make it just fun and weird and you know…
M: I would almost say that we gave each other the opportunity to have a childhood because there were so many things happening in our lives that really forced us to grow up to deal with mature things that you wouldn’t have to deal with at such a young age. We gave each other the space to have a childhood.
J: Yeah, I think also like Michelle and I are really really fortunate that we had each other at such a young age and we were both so ambitious and out of our ignorance we were super ambitious and I remember Michelle always talking about being an astronaut one day or building rockets or something like that and my goal was just to be rich. Like, whatever that path took? I will be rich and then I will do lots of things and have lots of crafts and you know? We wanted these really big things and we would have people often look at us and I would see when Michelle spoke we had teachers that would look at her and I could see that they were like… um, do they not know? Do they not know?
M: The answer is no we didn’t and that’s a good thing.
J: You know we lived in a really small town and the teachers knew what kind of families we came from. That we came from very broken homes and we came from very poor, poor families that had a lot of trauma going on and we were the weird girls, we were the girls that didn’t quite fit in. So we gathered all the other weirdos and you know? So when teachers would ask us like what do you want to be when you grow up like and we would tell them and we would have these like big lofty goals. You know? They would look at us like… Sure… Should we tell them like I don’t know?
M: No definitely don’t tell them.
J: Yeah and thank goodness nobody really told us. So you know I think that we had it hard enough as it was and we were hard enough critics on ourselves that it’s good that we had a lot of people along the way who also either lied to us and told us, You’re going to be awesome, I appreciate lying can be very, you know…
M: Strategic? Kind?
J: Kind, I need to say stuff like that. I’m really really grateful for that because we’re here today we’re here. Who are friends 30 years later and creating businesses together you know? I’m feeling very humble today that I’m here 30 years later with my best friend from the time I was a little girl. You know? And talking about purpose. So let’s get into this a little bit more. If we had to say like why does defining your purpose serve you? Why is that so important that we need to define our purpose? What do you think Michelle?
M: Well I think that in any undertaking, any endeavor that you have in life, being able to clarify and know your purpose gives you the ability to chart a path for yourself and especially when we are doing really challenging things. Things that can feel like they have a lot of chaos involved. Being able to return to that purpose and remember why. Why am I here? Why am I challenging myself this way? Why am I participating in something that is so hard? If you take the time to establish that why and figure out what it is that’s so important and why you chose to be there in the first place. I think I know people in my life who have made conscious choices about joining a team or being in a situation and then, you know, if a few months go by, a year goes by, challenges arise, things get difficult and you lose a little bit of that rosy patina of what you had in the beginning of this goal and suddenly you feel like you didn’t choose it. You feel like… Why was I even doing this? Why did I even think that? I know we all have a really large tendency to kind of be hard on ourselves about it. So we tend to tell ourselves that, you know, we didn’t see something coming. We didn’t keep ourselves safe or keep good boundaries, and oftentimes it’s not even about that. It’s about, you made a priority, you made a choice and if you can remind yourself of that when that path gets rocky then you can usually bridge the gap between, you know, the good times and the good times on the other side of those obstacles. I feel like it’s a really, really important activity. The importance of it really can’t be understated, so taking the time to find your why, to communicate your why with your team, and to make sure you know about their why so that everybody can share in motivating each other. I feel like is a foundational activity.
J: Yeah, I really like that. I think I’ve heard in several books that I’ve written and some of my favorite podcasts them expressing that when we divide up our attention and our power to too many purposes then nothing really has purpose. Like, you’re not giving any of these things that really matter to you, and that you’re trying to get to you’re not giving them enough power. How important it is for us to really narrow that purpose down so we can fly and hit those goals that we really want because we really only have so much energy right? We really have only so many hours in the day and we oftentimes things like balance we got to balance everything if we put a whole… if we have 10 marbles, you know, that’s we just put them all in all these different cups and stuff like that.
M: 10 different bins.
J: Yeah and honestly you actually don’t get very far that way. Who is it that said… I can’t remember who said it but someone was saying like if everything matters, nothing matters.
J: You know and there’s too many important things on this earth to care about. There’s too many purposes. We’re not meant to care about every single thing in this world and I know that’s hard to hear. It’s hard for me to understand, it’s something I have to tell myself all the time. Julia, you cannot solve all the problems. You cannot be a part of every single thing you want to be a part of. As much as you want to. You have to narrow down what you’re gonna put your energy and your power into. So other things that are really important that like narrowing down your purpose does that I’ve read from other blogs and other experts on the subject is having clear direction and having that foundation you can rely back on when you start getting wayward. We talked about that a little bit. So many times like as we’re doing projects or we’re hitting goals all these other little mini goals come in to try to distract us and we find ourselves doing all those other ones and then we realize, oh no we’ve lost track you know, and when we remember our purpose we get back on track. Then we have also kind of one that was kind of surprising for me to learn about is building trust. When we define our purpose we actually build trust in so many ways. When we define our purpose and we live our purpose we define trust in ourselves by being more dependable and by having that foundation and redirecting ourselves back onto our goals. When we do that we build evidence that we’re gonna hit our goals you know because we know how to like stay on track because we’ve got this purpose that we’ve defined. We invest in other people too, which is kind of really cool. That, I’ve learned is when people know that you’re someone who knows their purpose and stays on track with that purpose you’d be the messiest person in the world, you know, and be the most flawed person in the world but if you know your purpose and you filter your life and your choices through that purpose you’re a lot more steady person and people are a lot more attracted to your purpose. Did you have any other thoughts on why it’s really important to define your purpose?
M: No I actually think that between what you and I have said we’ve covered it fairly well. I’m sure I will think of other things later.
J: Okay so now we’ve defined why it’s important. Now we’re going to talk about how to actually do it, right?
J: So it’s always like one thing to point out what is wrong, what you need to do but I always want to be told how do you actually do it.
J: I get really frustrated when people give me advice.
M: Do the thing! How?
J: Okay that’s nice and all. Now how do you actually do it?
J: I have to say though like Michelle and I as we were building this business we took some time one day as we kind of felt the stress kind of rising between the two of us and we picked up one of our favorite books we’re super into right now. It’s Brene Brown’s Dare to Lead, probably everybody’s heard of it and she also has an amazing podcast. If you’re not listening to Brene Brown I don’t know what you’re doing. Okay.
M: Yeah if you haven’t been exposed yet she has a… she was a researcher, which kind of speaks to me because I’m a bit of a science nerd. So I really enjoy the scientific approach but she’s also talking about things that are very human, you know it’s not this sterile clinical thing. She’s talking about shame, she’s talking about bravery, she’s talking about how to become the person that you want. I really don’t, I think it can be good for anybody who takes the time. I know that the way that she speaks about things really speaks to me.
J: Yes me too and she’s been actually really helpful in us building our business. Michelle, she’s actually dedicated like almost half her book to discovering your purpose and value and narrowing it down. So definitely check that out and what I really love about this book is there’s a section in it here where she lists a whole bunch of the values for you to go over if you want to do quizzes with yourself and kind of narrow down what yours is. I definitely recommend that. Michelle and I sat down and we did that one afternoon and we think we know each other pretty good, you know, so you know we’ve known each other since we were basically babies. What’s kind of interesting is as much as I know Michelle, there are things I discovered about her and and and what like drives her. We oftentimes think it’s the same thing because we see so much of each other in each other and were so influenced by each other but we had very very different values. It turns out that they actually complement each other which was kind of really neat to…
J: …to read about. One of my values is freedom and I was kind of surprised that mine was freedom but it kept jumping out of the page at me and as I thought about me being that little girl who wanted that place of calm. For me that calm was freeing and I can see how, like, as a child how finding that peace was was so much freedom for me. Running out to the trees in the backyard and just having like an hour to myself. How much that that would reshape my mindset even. I’d be able to go back and face some of the hard realities of my life just being able to have those moments of freedom and that was really neat to kind of discover. Michelle, why don’t you tell us about one of yours?
M: So the one that jumped off the page for me was courage, and for people who know me that might not be a surprise but I was a little surprised, and then as I looked at you know the way that I made decisions. The way that I made the really big decisions in my life, it was really clear that I held courage in such really high regard. There were times when I had to make big choices about scary things way before I was ready and I always took the one that felt harder, but I knew it was right. There was no question to me that it was the right thing to do and I knew those choices were going to be harder for me. I didn’t… like it didn’t even occur to me to shy away from it because I knew it would be hard. I remember in one particular case having family members look at me and go, did you understand how hard this is going to be, and I was like, I understand exactly how hard this is going to be and that’s part of why I chose it was because I could take the easy way out but that’s not going to be right for me and I know that I need to make the choice that is scary and I need to make the choice that is hard because that’s what’s going to lead me to ultimately the place that I that feels right for me. That translates right into my second value which is kindness, because so much of those, you know, choices were about… I could do the thing that protects me but it wouldn’t be the thing that is kind to the people the other people that are involved in the decision and I don’t think that it would necessarily be the thing that’s kind to myself over the long term because believing that you’re not capable of stuff isn’t really kind. We both experienced a lot of people in our lives telling us that we weren’t capable of doing things, you know? Julia touched on that with teachers and other kids our age looking at us and going do they know and it was really about showing up for ourselves and having the kindness to keep our own dreams alive and there were times that I made decisions because I didn’t want to… I didn’t want to show my kids that it was okay to compromise with the things that they want to do in life. So yeah my two values ended up being courage and kindness and I felt like they just underlie every decision I’ve ever made in my life.
J: I really love that. So the experts, they say how do you define your values and how we do that is you make a list of values, you make a list of purposes and you write as many out as possible and then you filter through it with this question and it’s “Does this make me, when I do this, when I emulate this value does this make me the best version of myself that I want to be?” Really look deep into yourself and think of the moments that you really liked yourself, that you really showed up in a way that was sustaining to you, that motivated you to do the next step. I know sometimes that can be the first tricky part is like just even thinking of a time when you showed up for yourself in a way that you really wanted to. You know, like an example of that might be when was the time where I showed up as the best version of the mom that I want to be? Not what my kids want me to be or what I think my kids want me to be but the best version that I would define as a mom. Or when was the time when I showed up as the best version of myself when I was kind to somebody when I served somebody else and I was the kind of person that I want to be to somebody else? When I showed up as the kind of friend I want to be to somebody else. In business that looks like how did I show up at work for myself that felt like the most me and the best version of me that I defined for myself? What did that look like? What did that moment look like? Then start going through your values and looking at those words and be like does this is this define the best version of me that I want to be? We have got to stop defining our best versions of ourselves from somebody else’s point of view or somebody else or society’s point of view of what they tell us is the best version of a mom or a woman or an entrepreneur or as a friend or someone in the community. We have to stop doing that. The only person’s opinion and the only person that can define your best version of yourself is you. So start filtering through those questions and see how you do. See if you can cut, make it a goal to get to ten. Make it a goal to cut to five. Be fierce about it, you know, and cut it all the way down. Try to get to those two and then when you get those two live it! Filter everything through it! So I don’t know Michelle if you remember part of the book that like we kind of listened to with Brene Brown but I love the part that she talked about, that she noticed she feels really out of control and really starts seeing more anger appearing in her life when she starts making decisions away from her core values and I really felt that. I don’t like know, do you have experiences like that?
M: Absolutely. I mean I feel like I’ve had to stay in jobs that didn’t feel like they fit me entirely, didn’t feel like the whole of who I was belonged where I was working. And in those moments you know I look back on it and I go, why did I spend so much time there? I knew it was not a good fit after just a little bit and then the answer is because I prioritized, you know, taking care of my family. I spent a lot of time as a single mom and I really didn’t want my kids to have to live through some of the things that I had to live through in my childhood so I prioritized my kids. But I definitely felt conflicted inside because I didn’t feel like it was the courageous thing to do but it was a kind thing to do. So it’s interesting how things like that that you feel really conflicted in internally because they force you to go away from some of those core values. You can stay there for a bit but ultimately, in my life, they do end up ending or changing transitioning into something else. I’ve been fortunate enough to be in a position where I could springboard off of the time that I spent trying to do the right thing as a parent and propel myself into a place where I can live both of the values at the same time. It won’t be any easier than any of those others. It will definitely be terrifying but as I said before
I like the hard road.
J: I think we’re definitely at a point in our life where we are done living other people’s expectations of who we are. We’re all so over we are too old for that.
M: Which is funny because we started there and then it was like we had life kind of teach us like, no bad get back in the box, and there was a whole period of both of our lives where we were like, oh maybe they’re right maybe I need to be maybe I’m too much, maybe I need to be a little less extra, maybe I need to be a little bit quieter. It’s funny because my favorite quote is the Marianne Williamson quote about our biggest, our greatest fear being um not the darkness inside us but the light. And it talks about you know keeping yourself small so that other people can be comfortable around you and every year that I get a little bit older I come back to no, you know, being who you are, being able to live your values, being able to be that bright light who yeah, doesn’t fit, but inspires other people that… go ahead.
J: I think it’s been… I am definitely one of the luckiest girls in the world. I happen to have a best friend whose value is courage. Especially lately, you know, Michelle here, you know, I’m just extra grateful for you and your courage and the courage that you pour into me to help me be brave. Just so all of you know, Michelle almost daily is telling me, you know, like probably our whole lives actually if I really think about it but I know she’s been having to do it extra lately with us building our business. She’s always telling me, Julia you don’t need to conform, and, stop trying to conform, the conformity is ruining you. Stop it! It’s so neat to be a part of a business where and get to have my best friend as my partner and the encouraging words that she tells me every day to live brave and to reach towards what brings me freedom in my life. To live as authentically as possible because every day that I lean into that I feel like I’m breathing easier and easier every day and I am so excited for this path of learning to live more in our purpose and living this very narrowed, valued centered life with you as we move on with our business. I’m so excited for that because I feel so hopeful. So hopeful for that freedom that I have been hungry for my whole life and I get to be just me… and that’s enough. It’s enough to have a full meaningful, beautiful life and my business partner and best friend telling me that every single day. So like y’all need to get a best friend like Michelle. We’re here if you don’t get one we’ll be your new best friends.
J: All right, any last thoughts as we kind of any last things that like we should touch on about that leaning on your purpose. I do have one like with business…
J: Oh you go first and I’ll see if it’s the same as mine.
M: We need to come back around because we didn’t hit your second value and I think that that’s a really important note to kind of touch on, and I think it really beautifully kind of wraps up this whole talk we’ve been having.
M: So tell us about your other value.
J: Okay now she’s asking me the questions. All right so my second value is actually inspiration. And if I’m not inspired I don’t want to be here. So I’m just gonna go ahead and say it you guys are gonna pick it up I have ADHD pretty bad. It’s on the spectrum, so it’s pretty far on the spectrum but there’s some really cool things with that too and the part of that is that I want to be inspired all the time. Whether it’s like a sunset, I just like to go outside and I’m a sunflower and I’m just like, oh yes inspire me! I can just live in that moment for… until the sun goes down. If I’m not being, if I’m not inspired, I’m not interested in being there but very small things inspire me so that’s good. It doesn’t take much to, you know, make me excited about being present. But yeah it does it leads into everything and as you can see we’re in my art studio if you’re watching the youtube video, if you’re on the podcast, I am filming in my art studio. This was a big—a really big dream of mine that I’ve had since I was a little girl to create my own art studio. Art studios are just as cool as you think they are. If you’re thinking about doing an art studio and you dream about it, let me just tell you it is worth it!
M: Find a way to make it happen.
J: Yes, they totally work. I don’t even know what. Why I thought like once we built this art studio you know, I remember being in here on like day three in my art studio and I was like, I’m getting so much done. I’m so inspired. I’m like, oh wait it’s because it’s an art studio and that’s what they’re made to do. so um yeah that makes sense. Yeah, so build yourself an art studio if you want one. You know, do it. I don’t know if that’s what you were looking for Michelle but that’s what I got.
M: Absolutely, no I think the reason I wanted to bring everybody back around to inspiration is because you know we’ve talked about why it’s important to find your value and why establishing that serves you and how to define that. But I feel like we need to touch just a little bit on Among Lionhearts and, you know, the reason that we started Among Lionhearts was because we decided we really… we’ve always kind of been right fighters, do-gooders. We’ve been very empathic people for the majority of our lives and you know we’re always cheering on the underdog which is not surprising because we were the square pegs for sure. And I think that when you are searching for your why, for your purpose, it’s important to make sure that you’re finding that way that does inspire you, that does help you get out of bed on the hard days. You know because on the good days it’s really easy to roll out of bed and get in there but, you know, what is going to help you, what is going to inspire you to jump out of bed on the hard days and rush in when you’ve got deadlines, when you’ve got something going wrong before one of your events, or you know a donor that you need to help or bring them back around to why they’re in it too. I think it’s just it’s just really really important to remind people that it’s not just enough to find your why but your why also needs to inspire you.
J: Yeah, so I absolutely agree with that and I would have to say on that like, under that inspiration and that’s leaning into our purpose Michelle and I came up with how can we live our most purpose-driven life? And that’s where we come up with Among Lionhearts. Michelle and I have these very specific skills that we have developed through our life, through business, through just sheer grit of needing to learn certain skills to get through so many things and to progress the way that we wanted to. We’ve come to a point in our lives where we want to do more and we’re ready to do more and we’re just not being as effective in the careers that we were having and so we took a giant leap to live into these values to get into business together. We’ve created this digital marketing agency that we couldn’t be more excited about and we’re bringing our 30 plus years combined skills in non-profit work, and in the corporate world, as influencers, and brand coaches and bringing all of that together because we want to see the do-gooders win!
J: We want to see them win!
J: Yeah, we’re so tired of seeing so many underdogs just not make it because they didn’t have the resources, they didn’t have the connections that they needed. Michelle and I are at this point in our lives and in our skills where we were hitting we were hitting the tops of the ceilings and we weren’t going any further and we weren’t making the impact that we wanted to and we’re like, hey let’s do something crazy… let’s do something bold. And the thing is when you’re when your best friend is your partner and it’s been your hype person your whole life, you know, you can get into trouble. Because…
J: We believe in each other fiercely! You know, sometimes that ends up in a boat ride that you shouldn’t be going on and flinging your legs and being too young but…
M: I don’t know about not you know that you shouldn’t be going on it.
J: Wild birthdays.
M: I will maybe agree with the point that there’s a concern that it could be an echo chamber but sometimes there’s you know it’s really good to have an echo chamber of encouragement and friendship and somebody who believes in you and somebody who understands your intention in every move. You know, somebody you can call and just tell them that you had a bad day and somebody misunderstood something and you know have your friend go well you didn’t mean it like that. You don’t even have to explain that part because you have somebody there who understands. And if you don’t have one of those you need just make sure you’re showing up for our podcast because we are definitely that for everybody that we end up championing and being friends with so. We’ve got a bunch of those on the outside of this relationship too. I promise.
J: So let us be your hype ladies. Let us be your loudmouth change makers. We are here for it and we want to help you guys drive your causes forward. We want to hit, we want to help you hit those finish lines. So reach out to us if you have a cause, if you have a non-profit or for-profit business or if you’re a social enterprise and you’re needing help with your social media. If you want to get into influencer advertising, anything like that with content marketing. We are your girls for it. We are not going to let you down and we’re gonna shoot you to the moon.
J: We’re very very excited about that and if you’re here and you don’t have one of those things and you’re just a do-gooder there’s so much good stuff for you too we’re gonna be talking about… we want to talk, we want to connect with the individual person who wants to make a difference in this world. So before we wrap up… I think that’s, I think that’s good for us. We talked about all the things on my list I’m checking off here. This is how you do podcasts right?
M: Right right right right.
J: I hope you enjoyed this. We are going to be featuring a non-profit every month and so if you’re a non-profit please leave a comment, leave a review, email us, tell us about your non-profit, what you’re doing and we’re going to be happy to feature you. We hope to feature someone every month and just continue growing that. Before we sign off we have a little goodie for you and I want to leave you with a little affirmation. Affirmations are so powerful and I really really have been blessed by discovering affirmations this year in my life, and what’s really cool about affirmations and saying them out loud is that your brain actually doesn’t know the difference between the words you say out loud to yourself and the internal monologue that you’re saying to yourself every day. So say good stuff to yourself. This week’s affirmation is… “I trust that I have the skills, talents, and abilities within me to serve my life’s purpose.” Trust yourselves, lean into your values. If you really want to take advantage of this affirmation there’s three ways to kind of really help you internalize it this week. And that’s incorporate it in your meditation. Try looking in the mirror as you say this affirmation, or try putting it on some post-it notes and hide it all around the house so it surprises you with your affirmation and keeps it at the forefront of your mind.
M: We will have that affirmation in the show notes on our website so don’t rewind and try and write down. I swear you can go to the website and just pick it up right there.
J: Thank you for joining us for our first-ever podcast. We hope that we have a lot more for you. It’s time to sign off but I want you to remember every small act of courage no matter how small is not actually small at all. You, my dear, are standing among the lionhearts.
J: All right.